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sql server clustering : replace failed node without downtime? (sp1 question)
Is there a manual procedure whereby I could get a replacement node up to SP1
binaries without having to interrupt service by failing the cluster over just to apply SP1 to the newly rebuilt node? Hopefully I'm making sense - the node that went down was a passive node and it's been rebuilt - but in order to get the binaries up to SP1 the only way I know how is to fail the cluster to the new node just to get the SP1 binaries on it. Thanks in advance! Karl
Hi,
My understanding of your issue is: After adding a new node in SQL 2005 cluster instance, the SQL version on new node is RTM and old node is SP1 In such scenario, we have following two ways to apply SQL Sp1 for this SQL 2005 cluster. 1. Apply SP1 again on the active node (OLD node) and the new node will be upgraded to SP3 as well. 2. Add registry Need_SP_Key on the passive node and install SQL service pack 1on Passive node directly, In this way, the SP1 will only be installed on Passive node. Hope this helps. Best regards, Vincent Xu Microsoft Online Partner Support ====================================================== Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security ====================================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from this issue. ====================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,and confers no rights. ====================================================== -------------------- [quoted text, click to view] >>From: "Karl" <karl@nospam.postalias>
>>Subject: replace failed node without downtime? (sp1 question) >>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:12:02 -0600 >>Lines: 14 >>X-Priority: 3 >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 >>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 >>Message-ID: <#1Gw4Nf4GHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >>NNTP-Posting-Host: mailgate.mcdata.com 208.47.132.224 >>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl >>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering:20872 >>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >> >>Is there a manual procedure whereby I could get a replacement node up to SP1 >>binaries without having to interrupt service by failing the cluster over >>just to apply SP1 to the newly rebuilt node? >> >>Hopefully I'm making sense - the node that went down was a passive node and >>it's been rebuilt - but in order to get the binaries up to SP1 the only way >>I know how is to fail the cluster to the new node just to get the SP1 >>binaries on it. >> >>Thanks in advance! >> >>Karl >> >> >>
Yes, you understand what I'm trying to do. I have a couple of questions,
please. If I try #1 on the old (already SP1) node - will it stop the SQL Service or will it leave the active node online while it patches the passive node remotely? For #2 when I search for Need_SP_Key I only get SQL 2000 information and the 2005 BOL has nothing I can find about it. Sounds like the best option though. -Karl [quoted text, click to view] "Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message Hi,news:1EObEyf4GHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl... My understanding of your issue is: After adding a new node in SQL 2005 cluster instance, the SQL version on new node is RTM and old node is SP1 In such scenario, we have following two ways to apply SQL Sp1 for this SQL 2005 cluster. 1. Apply SP1 again on the active node (OLD node) and the new node will be upgraded to SP3 as well. 2. Add registry Need_SP_Key on the passive node and install SQL service pack 1on Passive node directly, In this way, the SP1 will only be installed on Passive node. Hope this helps. Best regards, Vincent Xu Microsoft Online Partner Support ====================================================== Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security ====================================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from this issue. ====================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,and confers no rights. ====================================================== -------------------- [quoted text, click to view] >>From: "Karl" <karl@nospam.postalias> >>Subject: replace failed node without downtime? (sp1 question) >>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:12:02 -0600 >>Lines: 14 >>X-Priority: 3 >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 >>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 >>Message-ID: <#1Gw4Nf4GHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >>NNTP-Posting-Host: mailgate.mcdata.com 208.47.132.224 >>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl >>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering:20872 >>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >> >>Is there a manual procedure whereby I could get a replacement node up to SP1 >>binaries without having to interrupt service by failing the cluster over >>just to apply SP1 to the newly rebuilt node? >> >>Hopefully I'm making sense - the node that went down was a passive node and >>it's been rebuilt - but in order to get the binaries up to SP1 the only way >>I know how is to fail the cluster to the new node just to get the SP1 >>binaries on it. >> >>Thanks in advance! >> >>Karl >> >> >>
Hi,
Found more information: You can even install SP1 on node 2 directly: - Verified that SP1 was successfully installed on Node1, we did that by running Select @@Version & physically checking the File Version property of sqlservr.exe on Node1 which is 2005.90.2047.0 - We made Node1 as a active node. - Started installation on Node2. Note: This time setup wont allow us to check the checkbox for instance in "Feature Selection" window, as Node1 (which is a active node) is already on SP1, so we will continue so we continued setup without it. - Let it run for all products till setup got completed. - Verified that SP1 was successfully installed on Node2, we did that by running Select @@Version & physically checking the File Version property of sqlservr.exe on Node2 which is 2005.90.2047.0 - Verified by failing over also. Hope this helps. Best regards, Vincent Xu Microsoft Online Partner Support ====================================================== Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security ====================================================== When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so that others may learn and benefit from this issue. ====================================================== This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,and confers no rights. ====================================================== -------------------- [quoted text, click to view] >>From: "Karl" <karl@nospam.postalias>
>>References: <#1Gw4Nf4GHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> <1EObEyf4GHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl> >>Subject: Re: replace failed node without downtime? (sp1 question) >>Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2006 00:53:14 -0600 >>Lines: 89 >>X-Priority: 3 >>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 >>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 >>Message-ID: <ODDXdGg4GHA.696@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl> >>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >>NNTP-Posting-Host: mailgate.mcdata.com 208.47.132.224 >>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl >>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering:20876 >>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >> >>Yes, you understand what I'm trying to do. I have a couple of questions, >>please. >> >>If I try #1 on the old (already SP1) node - will it stop the SQL Service or >>will it leave the active node online while it patches the passive node >>remotely? >> >>For #2 when I search for Need_SP_Key I only get SQL 2000 information and the >>2005 BOL has nothing I can find about it. Sounds like the best option >>though. >> >>-Karl >> >>"Vincent Xu [MSFT]" <v-xuwen@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message >>news:1EObEyf4GHA.2336@TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl... >>Hi, >> >>My understanding of your issue is: After adding a new node in SQL 2005 >>cluster instance, the SQL version on new node is RTM and old node is SP1 >> >> >> >>In such scenario, we have following two ways to apply SQL Sp1 for this SQL >>2005 cluster. >> >>1. Apply SP1 again on the active node (OLD node) and the new node >>will be upgraded to SP3 as well. >> >>2. Add registry Need_SP_Key on the passive node and install SQL >>service pack 1on Passive node directly, In this way, the SP1 will only be >>installed on Passive node. >> >>Hope this helps. >> >> >> >>Best regards, >> >>Vincent Xu >>Microsoft Online Partner Support >> >>====================================================== >>Get Secure! - www.microsoft.com/security >>====================================================== >>When responding to posts, please "Reply to Group" via your newsreader so >>that others >>may learn and benefit from this issue. >>====================================================== >>This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties,and confers no rights. >>====================================================== >> >> >> >>-------------------- >>>>From: "Karl" <karl@nospam.postalias> >>>>Subject: replace failed node without downtime? (sp1 question) >>>>Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2006 23:12:02 -0600 >>>>Lines: 14 >>>>X-Priority: 3 >>>>X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >>>>X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 >>>>X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 >>>>Message-ID: <#1Gw4Nf4GHA.3604@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl> >>>>Newsgroups: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >>>>NNTP-Posting-Host: mailgate.mcdata.com 208.47.132.224 >>>>Path: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP01.phx.gbl!TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl >>>>Xref: TK2MSFTNGXA01.phx.gbl microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering:20872 >>>>X-Tomcat-NG: microsoft.public.sqlserver.clustering >>>> >>>>Is there a manual procedure whereby I could get a replacement node up to >>SP1 >>>>binaries without having to interrupt service by failing the cluster over >>>>just to apply SP1 to the newly rebuilt node? >>>> >>>>Hopefully I'm making sense - the node that went down was a passive node >>and >>>>it's been rebuilt - but in order to get the binaries up to SP1 the only >>way >>>>I know how is to fail the cluster to the new node just to get the SP1 >>>>binaries on it. >>>> >>>>Thanks in advance! >>>> >>>>Karl >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >>
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